Legislature(2013 - 2014)CAPITOL 106

03/27/2014 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 293 BEAR LICENSE PLATES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 293(STA) Out of Committee
*+ HB 270 SERVICE OF CITATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ SB 116 SERVICE OF CITATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ HB 216 OFFICIAL LANGUAGES OF THE STATE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
             HB 216-OFFICIAL LANGUAGES OF THE STATE                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:07:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN announced  that the final order of  business was HOUSE                                                               
BILL  NO.  216,  "An  Act adding  the  Inupiaq,  Siberian  Yupik,                                                               
Central Alaskan  Yup'ik, Alutiiq,  Unangax, Dena'ina,  Deg Xinag,                                                               
Holikachuk,  Koyukon, Upper  Kuskokwim,  Gwich'in, Tanana,  Upper                                                               
Tanana,  Tanacross,   Hän,  Ahtna,  Eyak,  Tlingit,   Haida,  and                                                               
Tsimshian languages as official languages of the state."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:07:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    KREISS-TOMKINS,    as   joint-prime    sponsor,                                                               
introduced HB 216.  He  noted the other joint-prime sponsors were                                                               
Representatives Millett,  Edgmon, Nageak, and Herron.   He stated                                                               
that  HB  216  would  acknowledge   Alaska  Native  languages  as                                                               
Alaska's languages.  The proposed  legislation would amend a part                                                               
of  statute that  was created  with the  1998 U.S.  English Voter                                                               
Initiative,  which  did  two  things:   Created  English  as  the                                                               
official  language of  Alaska in  a  ceremonial sense,  and in  a                                                               
legal and binding sense stated in  statute that English had to be                                                               
used by the  State of Alaska government.  He  said the latter has                                                               
been litigated and  "some of it's still in the  books today."  He                                                               
clarified,  "This  bill does  not  touch  that  at all;  it  just                                                               
relates to  the first  part of  the statute  that was  created by                                                               
that  voter  initiative,  which  created  sort  of  a  ceremonial                                                               
official language of  Alaska - that language being  English."  He                                                               
said HB  216 would acknowledge  the Alaska Native  languages that                                                               
have existed long before his own ancestors existed.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KREISS-TOMKINS  characterized   HB   216  as   a                                                               
grassroots bill,  and he ventured  there were hundreds  of people                                                               
listening to the meeting.  He  said the testimony heard on HB 216                                                               
in the House Community and  Regional Affairs Standing Committee a                                                               
couple  weeks prior  was some  of the  most inspirational  he has                                                               
experienced  as  a   legislator.    He  said   there  are  people                                                               
dedicating their lives trying to  prevent the extinction of these                                                               
languages.    In  2008,  the  last fluent  speaker  of  the  Eyak                                                               
Language, Chief  Marie Smith Jones,  died.   He said there  are a                                                               
number  of  other languages  currently  with  only a  handful  of                                                               
speakers alive.   He noted that just before  the current hearing,                                                               
he learned  from a woman present  in the room that  she had moved                                                               
from the Yukon Territory to Juneau  in order to take classes from                                                               
the  University of  Southeast, Juneau,  in the  Tlingit language.                                                               
He  said that  is representative  of what  hundreds of  people in                                                               
Alaska are doing to try to "turn  the tide of language loss."  He                                                               
said the proposed legislation would acknowledge those efforts.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:10:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  offered  his  understanding  that                                                               
there was an amendment available.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:11:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  asked if every  current Alaska Native  language would                                                               
be included under HB 216.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KREISS-TOMKINS  answered   that  the   list  was                                                               
obtained  from  the  linguists  from  the  University  of  Alaska                                                               
Fairbanks and is inclusive of all Alaska Native languages today.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:11:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER moved  to adopt  Amendment 1,  labeled 28-                                                               
LS0905\U.1,  Martin, 3/14/14,  which  read  as follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 5:                                                                                                  
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
        "* Section 1. The uncodified law of the State of                                                                    
     Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read:                                                                         
          LEGISLATIVE INTENT. It is the intent of the                                                                           
     legislature that  the amendment to  AS 44.12.310 adding                                                                    
     20  languages as  official languages  of  the state  is                                                                    
     symbolic and is not  intended to require the government                                                                    
     to provide  additional services in those  20 additional                                                                    
     languages."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 6:                                                                                                            
          Delete "Section 1"                                                                                                  
          Insert "Sec. 2"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTIS objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KREISS-TOMKINS  explained   that  the   proposed                                                               
Amendment 1  would clarify  that HB 216  would neither  amend the                                                               
part of statute  that relates to day to  day government functions                                                               
nor force government  [documents] to be printed  in 20 languages.                                                               
He  indicated  that  Amendment  1  was in  line  with  the  legal                                                               
perspective, which the committee would  hear about later, and the                                                               
zero fiscal note, included in the committee packet.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON stated  an objection to Amendment  1.  He                                                               
indicated  that he  wanted to  hear from  someone at  Legislative                                                               
Legal and Research Services.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:13:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HILARY MARTIN,  Attorney at Law,  Legislative Legal  and Research                                                               
Services, Legislative  Affairs Agency, Alaska  State Legislature,                                                               
echoed Representative Kreiss-Tomkins'  statement that Amendment 1                                                               
solidifies the  intent of making  the recognition of  the state's                                                               
Native  languages  a symbolic  one  that  would not  require  the                                                               
government to provide services in these languages.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:14:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER questioned  the  concept of  taking a  law                                                               
that has litigation attached to it and calling it symbolic.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARTIN indicated that the  language of Amendment 1 was intent                                                               
language in  uncodified law.   She  said she  was not  certain if                                                               
calling a law symbolic had been  done before.  She said there has                                                               
been a  court case  about the  official language  statutes, which                                                               
she  offered to  discuss.   She  stated that  intent language  in                                                               
uncodified  law lessens  the impact,  because the  language would                                                               
not go into statute.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  asked what the ramifications  would be for                                                               
naming the languages "official".                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARTIN  answered,  "The   statute  doesn't  define  official                                                               
language  aside from  declaring what  the official  language is."                                                               
She continued as follows:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The [Alaska]  Supreme Court has  said that part  of the                                                                    
     ... official language  statute is unconstitutional ....                                                                    
     Right now, the statute says  English language has to be                                                                    
     used in the preparations  of all official documents and                                                                    
     records, but  the [Alaska] Supreme Court  has said that                                                                    
     that means  it has to  be done  in English.   That does                                                                    
     not prevent  using another  language, and  that statute                                                                    
     is not being amended in this  bill.  So, beyond that it                                                                    
     is not entirely  clear what the effect  is of declaring                                                                    
     something  is  an  official   language.    There's  ...                                                                    
     nothing else, really, that forces  the use of the other                                                                    
     languages that I'm aware of.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:17:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON  asked what the effect  of uncodified law                                                               
is in a legal proceeding.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARTIN answered  that although uncodified law  is not entered                                                               
into statute,  if a  statute is  ambiguous, a  court can  look to                                                               
intent  language   to  determine   how  the  statute   should  be                                                               
interpreted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON referenced  AS 44.12.320  and questioned                                                               
whether, without  a clear  statement of intent,  there may  be an                                                               
unintended consequence of that statute being mandated.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARTIN reiterated  that AS  44.12.320 would  not be  amended                                                               
under  HB 216,  and  she  stated her  belief  that  it would  not                                                               
"mandate the ... use of all  of the official languages to prepare                                                               
documents  and  records."   She  reiterated  that  currently  the                                                               
government  could  choose,  but   is  not  required,  to  prepare                                                               
documents in the other languages.   She clarified, "I don't think                                                               
that ... this bill would change that circumstance."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON expressed  his desire  to hear  from the                                                               
Department of Law.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:20:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The   committee   took  a   brief   at-ease   due  to   technical                                                               
difficulties.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:21:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT,  participating   on  the  committee  via                                                               
teleconference,  said she  is a  joint-prime sponsor  of HB  216.                                                               
She relayed  that the proposed  legislation is  personal, because                                                               
she is one-quarter Inupiaq and  grew up not knowing her language.                                                               
She said  her grandmother  was born  in White  Mountain and  at a                                                               
young age taken to Oregon, where  she was taught English and told                                                               
not  to speak  in  her Native  language.   When  she returned  to                                                               
Alaska years later, she did not  pass on her Native tongue to her                                                               
daughter or  granddaughter, and Representative  Millett expressed                                                               
feeling the loss of an opportunity to learn.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT said  HB 216  is symbolic  and would  not                                                               
require any  change to statute or  have any legal standing.   She                                                               
indicated that  her intent  in testifying is  to ensure  that "we                                                               
still have English as our first and only language in Alaska."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  talked  about  Native  youth  in  Alaska                                                               
trying to  cope, and she  said, "We  are number one  for domestic                                                               
violence; we are number one in  suicide."  She said the intent of                                                               
the  proposed  legislation  is to  create  an  environment  where                                                               
Alaska  Native  youths can  take  pride  in their  ancestry  and,                                                               
through learning their languages  and hearing their stories told,                                                               
know that they are not the  outsiders, but rather are "the people                                                               
that we should be learning from."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  asked  that   care  be  taken  with  the                                                               
proposed legislation,  such that any  amendments to it  would not                                                               
result  in future  litigation.   In response  to Chair  Lynn, she                                                               
said she did not oppose the proposed Amendment 1.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:25:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON stated  that several  years ago,  a bill                                                               
passed that allowed Alaska to  preserve its Native languages.  He                                                               
stated his belief that HB 216  would open a door to an unintended                                                               
consequence.  He  said, "This is something that  has already been                                                               
through the courts  and has a huge history."   He asked for DOL's                                                               
feedback  as   to  the   effect  of   uncodified  law   on  legal                                                               
proceedings.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:26:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIBBY  BAKALAR,  Assistant  Attorney  General,  Labor  and  State                                                               
Affairs  Section,  Civil  Division (Juneau),  Department  of  Law                                                               
(DOL), said  she essentially agreed  with the answer  provided by                                                               
Ms.  Martin  that  [uncodified  law]  is  viewed  as  legislative                                                               
intent.   She said  that in interpreting  the statute,  the court                                                               
would  first  look to  the  constitution,  then to  statute,  and                                                               
finally to regulations or legislative  intent language.  She said                                                               
she did not think [intent  language] would have any legal impact,                                                               
but would weigh in the  court's determination in a disputed issue                                                               
over the statute.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON reiterated his  concern that HB 216 would                                                               
create an  unintended consequence,  because people would  not see                                                               
the intent language,  which may result in the  legislature or DOL                                                               
in the  future thinking it  should "align this section"  with the                                                               
aforementioned  statute to  mandate that  all official  documents                                                               
include all the official languages.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAKALAR  responded, "I  think that would  be a  separate bill                                                               
entirely; this  bill, standing  alone, in  my view,  even without                                                               
the intent language, does not  impose any additional requirements                                                               
on the government to produce  documents in the listed languages."                                                               
She said the phrase "official  language" does not appear anywhere                                                               
else in  Alaska statute.   Further, she  said the bill  would not                                                               
change any  of the  other requirements  in the  Official Language                                                               
initiative that  expressly provide  for government  documents and                                                               
publications  in English.   She  said  the case  that Ms.  Martin                                                               
mentioned  held that  a statute  that is  reduced to  a statement                                                               
that English is  the official language of the state  could not be                                                               
given  legal affect,  because it  would  only be  a statement  of                                                               
policy.  She continued:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Based on that,  the amendment to the  statute that adds                                                                    
     all  these languages  is really  what ...  the sponsors                                                                    
     both  mentioned  -  a policy  statement  without  legal                                                                    
     impact  - so,  even  regardless of  intent language,  I                                                                    
     think  the statute  standing alone  doesn't impose  any                                                                    
     additional   obligations  on   the  state   to  produce                                                                    
     government documents in these listed languages.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:29:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  asked Ms. Bakalar  if the proposed Amendment  1 would                                                               
be detrimental to HB 216 in any way.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAKALAR answered  that she did not think it  would affect the                                                               
bill  itself, because  the  statutory language  was  clear.   She                                                               
offered her understanding that the  purpose of Amendment 1 was to                                                               
reiterate  what   was  already  true   in  statute  and   in  the                                                               
constitution, as interpreted by  the [Alaska] Supreme Court, that                                                               
"it is largely symbolic."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:30:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  asked what the proposed  legislation, with                                                               
or without Amendment  1, would change, within the  context of the                                                               
law, in terms of Alaska's official language.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAKALAR answered,  "I don't believe we  have changed anything                                                               
in terms  of what that phrase  means, because that phrase  is not                                                               
actually defined anywhere in the statutes."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  sought clarification that the  term is not                                                               
used  in other  statutes.   He then  asked, "Will  it not  be ...                                                               
looked at  in law or  in court cases,  maybe, in the  future ...,                                                               
here ... along with the other places it might be used?"                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAKALAR answered,  "I don't believe it is  used anywhere else                                                               
in the statute."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:32:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BENJAMIN  NAGEAK,  Alaska State  Legislature,  as                                                               
joint-prime sponsor, asked permission to  make a statement in his                                                               
Native language of  Inupiaq.  In response to Chair  Lynn, he said                                                               
he would follow that statement with  a translation.  He then gave                                                               
his testimony in Inupiaq.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:34:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NAGEAK said he initially  came in anger to testify                                                               
on HB  216, but then he  realized the emotion was  not anger, but                                                               
passion  to  keep  "our  language"  alive.    He  emphasized  the                                                               
importance of this issue.  He  stated that as recent as 1969, "we                                                               
were second-class people."  Representative  Nageak told of a time                                                               
when he and  his cousin were walking along a  street at night, in                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska,  when two  large men attacked  them.   He said                                                               
police were around but "nothing happened."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NAGEAK  stated disagreement  with the  labeling of                                                               
the  proposed  bill  as  symbolic.    He  opined  that  it  is  a                                                               
recognition that the  people who have lived in  Alaska since time                                                               
immemorial spoke other languages.   He relayed that Barter Island                                                               
got its  name, because it  was the  place where the  Gwich'in and                                                               
Inupiat people met  to trade.  He said people  did not always get                                                               
along,  but   recognized  they  needed   each  other   to  trade.                                                               
Representative  Nageak said  today people  need each  other.   He                                                               
talked about  the unintended consequences  of diseases  that were                                                               
brought to  Alaska by non-Natives  and killed many  Native people                                                               
who  had no  immunity  to them.   He  said  there are  unintended                                                               
consequences for everything.  He said  he does not think the bill                                                               
would  change anything,  but is  a recognition  of those  who are                                                               
speaking  the languages  of their  ancestors and  trying to  keep                                                               
those  languages alive.   He  added, "Just  like you.   You  want                                                               
English to be alive.  And so, we  have the same passion you do in                                                               
protecting what  you ... know."   He  said that is  human nature.                                                               
He  reiterated  that   the  bill  is  not  symbolic,   but  is  a                                                               
recognition  that  there were  people  here  before the  Russians                                                               
came.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:38:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER said he had  spent time on the North Slope,                                                               
and  he wished  he knew  more  than some  words in  Inupiaq.   He                                                               
concurred  with  Representative  Nageak  that the  issue  is  not                                                               
symbolic; it is  about the desire to preserve  languages that are                                                               
in danger  of becoming extinct,  which in turn would  protect the                                                               
cultures  that use  those languages.   He  commented on  how many                                                               
words  for different  types of  snow there  are in  Inupiaq.   He                                                               
questioned why  the issue  is being  addressed in  "this format,"                                                               
when there  are so  many other  things that could  be done.   For                                                               
example, he  said there could  be a  designated day to  honor all                                                               
the  languages of  Alaska.    He said  he  would co-sponsor  such                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN  interjected  that  he  also  would  co-sponsor  such                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER suggested  that  the  state could  provide                                                               
funds  to ensure  that  Native languages  do not  get  lost.   He                                                               
stated,  "I'm  passionately  with  you,  and  I  appreciate  your                                                               
language ... but I'm really struggling with this format."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN asked  Representative  Keller to  clarify  if he  was                                                               
struggling with  the format of  Amendment 1  or the format  of HB
216.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  answered the format of  the proposed bill.                                                               
He  mentioned  a  "voter  bill"  that was  passed,  in  which  he                                                               
indicated the word "official" was  used, which "politicized it to                                                               
a point that it seems like  it might work against us; it actually                                                               
might ... deepen the wedge that we don't need."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:42:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NAGEAK indicated  that the format used  for HB 216                                                               
was the same  as was used to make English  the official language,                                                               
and both are  recognitions.  He stated, "It's  a recognition that                                                               
language is  used officially in  a lot of  things."  He  spoke of                                                               
the period  of time when  he was growing up  and was told  not to                                                               
speak his  language, but people  did speak  it to keep  it alive.                                                               
He said  his generation was  the last  to speak, read,  and write                                                               
his language.   He said his  children are struggling.   He talked                                                               
about language being emotional.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:46:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  reiterated that he  shares [Representative                                                               
Nageak's] passion,  and would  support the  efforts to  honor and                                                               
preserve  Native languages,  but  he struggles  with the  vehicle                                                               
being used.   He shared  a word that  he said meant  "white guy,"                                                               
and he  indicated that he was  described as such when  he was [on                                                               
the North Slope].                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:46:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  reminded the  committee that  Amendment 1  was before                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:46:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTIS said her parents  came from Russia, but she                                                               
does not  speak Russian, because  her parents learned  English to                                                               
assimilate,  since  the  English  language is  "what  the  United                                                               
States  speaks  and  reads."   She  observed  that  the  proposed                                                               
legislation would do nothing to  keep the Native languages alive,                                                               
but it also  would not hinder [efforts to do  so].  She concurred                                                               
with  Representative Keller  that  a different  vehicle could  be                                                               
used  to  keep  the  languages  alive  and  utilize  them  in  an                                                               
educational  setting.    She  indicated   that  even  though  she                                                               
appreciated   the  comments   from  Representative   Nageak,  the                                                               
proposed  legislation   is  of  a  symbolic   nature;  therefore,                                                               
"there's a little bit of separation there."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN remarked, "It's almost like two separate bills."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTIS concurred.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN recognized Representative  Isaacson to speak and asked                                                               
him if he would be speaking to the proposed amendment or bill.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:48:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON  noted  that   the  committee  had  been                                                               
speaking  to both,  and offered  to remove  his objection  to the                                                               
motion to move Amendment 1, but  noted that he had some questions                                                               
about Amendment 1.   He stated that he  and Representative Nageak                                                               
were "brothers  - heart and soul,"  but said that on  this issue,                                                               
he had  "heartburn."  He indicated  that he had supported  a bill                                                               
to   preserve  Alaska's   languages  that   passed  through   the                                                               
legislature.   He  related  that he  was a  linguist  who held  a                                                               
Bachelor of  Arts and Linguistics,  and he said he  was published                                                               
with a  Ph.D. candidate  in a peer-reviewed  article in  a Salish                                                               
Indian  dialect.   He  said he  grew  up in  a  family where  his                                                               
grandfather on  his father's side  did not allow his  children to                                                               
speak Norwegian, because they were  in America.  He said although                                                               
he  could  not speak  Norwegian,  he  had studied,  formally  and                                                               
informally, about  10-12 languages,  was in  Alaska as  a Russian                                                               
linguist,  and was  in  a Spanish  singing  group; therefore,  he                                                               
understood language as emotional and from the heart.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON  said  preserving languages  takes  more                                                               
than declaring it is official.   He said, "We have never declared                                                               
any language  in America  official -  not Cherokee,  not English,                                                               
not German, not  Spanish - and yet we've accepted  English as the                                                               
language  of trade,  and now  Spanish is  coming on  board."   He                                                               
noted that  when Teddy  Roosevelt was  President, he  warned that                                                               
the  country   could  become  "a   boarding  house   of  polyglot                                                               
residents," where people  would be unable to  communicate at all.                                                               
Representative  Isaacson indicated  there  may  be an  unintended                                                               
burden  of making  something official  when  trying to  establish                                                               
culture and  pride and trying  to be "one people  recognizing the                                                               
multifaceted diversity of our culture."   He noted that Amendment                                                               
1  used the  word "symbolic,"  and he  offered his  understanding                                                               
that Representative  Nageak was saying  "it is a recognition  - a                                                               
symbolic  recognition."   He  questioned  whether "this  vehicle"                                                               
would "really accomplish  what you and the sponsor  are trying to                                                               
do."                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:51:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON  asked if  [the  people  who traded  on]                                                               
Barter Island really had one language of trade.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NAGEAK said he thought  they did, but the language                                                               
was not perpetuated.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON said  many  cultures throughout  history                                                               
have adopted  a trade language.   He asked  Representative Nageak                                                               
if he would speak against Amendment  1, because of the use of the                                                               
word "symbolic."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NAGEAK  reiterated that "it's a  recognition; it's                                                               
not  symbolic."    He  emphasized that  those  who  spoke  Native                                                               
languages were in  what is now Alaska much longer  than those who                                                               
came  along  after.   He  asked  Representative Isaacson  not  to                                                               
"parse words" with him.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON  responded that  when the  legislature is                                                               
speaking  about law,  it must  parse  words.   He indicated  that                                                               
[Amendment  1]  is  an  attempt   to  establish  intent,  and  he                                                               
emphasized  the importance  of ensuring  that intent  follows the                                                               
law, so  that future  legislatures are  not encumbered  with, for                                                               
example,   "having  to   provide  everything   in  20   different                                                               
languages."   He said, "The  next step is progression.   Somebody                                                               
will do something  more, and someone will try to  infer an intent                                                               
that is  not in  this intent, because  intent doesn't  follow the                                                               
codified   law;  it   won't  be   in  the   books."     He  asked                                                               
Representative Nageak to help him understand.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:55:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NAGEAK answered, "Let me  remind you:  We're using                                                               
the same  format that was used  to place English as  a recognized                                                               
language."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:55:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  stated that  she does not  understand the                                                               
pushback from  recognizing the first  people that were  in Alaska                                                               
before  it became  part  of  the U.S.    She  indicated that  the                                                               
legislature  passed  other symbolic  bills,  such  as making  the                                                               
malamute   Alaska's  official   dog,  without   nearly  as   much                                                               
discussion.   She  emphasized that  HB 216  would be  a beginning                                                               
step  towards restoring  pride in  Alaska Natives  by righting  a                                                               
wrong that was done years ago.  She continued as follows:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     I'm  very passionate  about this  bill.   I'm so  upset                                                                    
     that  I  don't know  Inupiaq,  that  I don't  know  the                                                                    
     language.   I wish  that my  grandma wasn't  beaten and                                                                    
     told  not to  speak the  Native  language.   I wish  my                                                                    
     mother wasn't  ashamed of being Native  and not wanting                                                                    
     to  learn her  indigenous language.   I  want to  right                                                                    
     that wrong.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  said she  has  heard  many stories  from                                                               
elders about  Natives being beaten  for speaking  their language.                                                               
She  ventured  that  others may  not  understand  without  having                                                               
walked "in  some of those shoes."   She asked people  to "look in                                                               
their hearts"  and consider that  "we're not doing  anything with                                                               
force  of law":    no statutes  would be  changed  under HB  216;                                                               
"English is our  language"; and learning a  Native language would                                                               
not be mandatory.   She emphasized that  the proposed legislation                                                               
is "a symbolic  gesture to just pass  on to the youth  of our ...                                                               
state" to encourage pride, the  learning of Native languages, and                                                               
a knowledge of personal history.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:59:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN indicated  that what he saw happening was  not a push-                                                               
back, but a committee process.   He opined that the proposed bill                                                               
and amendment  are important and worthy  of committee discussion.                                                               
He  suggested  that if  the  proposed  legislation was  not  that                                                               
important, perhaps  the committee would  not be spending  so much                                                               
time vetting it.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:00:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KREISS-TOMKINS reviewed that  Alaska already has a                                                               
symbolic official  language, which is  English.  That  was passed                                                               
in  the aforementioned  1998 voter  initiative.   That initiative                                                               
excluded the 20  Native languages of Alaska.  He  said the intent                                                               
of HB  216 is to  recognize the  people who are  dedicating their                                                               
lives  to  learning  the  languages,   by  recognizing  that  the                                                               
languages -  in the official  and ceremonial  sense - are  to the                                                               
State  of Alaska  equally  important and  just  as much  Alaska's                                                               
languages [as  English].  He concluded,  "That's the significance                                                               
of this bill."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  asked the  committee to focus  again on  the proposed                                                               
Amendment 1.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:01:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTIS  [maintained] her  objection to  the motion                                                               
to adopt Amendment 1.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:01:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN announced that HB 216 was held over.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[The  motion to  adopt  Amendment  1 was  left  pending, with  an                                                               
objection.]                                                                                                                     

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
01 HB0293A.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
01a Draft CS for HB293 v.N.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
01bHB293 Isaacson Amendment N.1.PDF HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
02 HB 293 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
03 HB293 CS Sectional.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
04 HB293 50 State Summary.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
05 HB293 Alaska DMV List of specialty plates.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
06 HB293 Alaska DMV Specialty Plates Pictures.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
07 HB293 DMV specialty plate info for 5 yrs.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
08 HB293 Leg Research Document.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
09 HB293 Fiscal Note DOA 3-24-2014.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
01 HB270 Bill Version U.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
01a HB270 Blank CS Version N.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
01b HB270 Summary of Changes.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
02 HB270 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
03 HB270 Supporting Document-Mat Su Resolution.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
04 HB270 Supporting Document-MatSu Memo.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
05 HB270 Supporting Documents-Letter of Support APOA.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
06 HB270-Letter of Support Chiefs of Police.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
07 HB270-Letter of Support-Fairbanks NSB.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
08 HB270-Minor Offense Rule 3.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
09 HB270-Civil Rule 4.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
10 HB270 Fiscal Note DNR 3-21-2014.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
11 HB270 Fiscal Note DPS 3-24-2014.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 270
01 SB116 v.N.PDF HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
01a SB116 v.O SSTA.PDF HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
02 SB116-Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
03 SB116-Explanation of Changes Version O.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
04 SB116-Minor Offense Rule 3.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
05 SB116-Civil Rule 4.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
06 SB116-Letter of Support APOA.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
07 SB116-Letter of Support Chiefs of Police.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
08 SB116-Letter of Support FairbanksNSB.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
09 SB116-Letter of Support Mat-SuBorough.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
10 SB116-FiscalNote-ACS-TRC-03-06-14.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
11 SB116-FiscalNote-DNR-PKS-3-08-14.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
12 SB116-FiscalNote-DPS-DET-03-10-14.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 116
01 HB 216 v.U.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
01a Amendment U.1 HB216 Blank.PDF HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
02 HB 216 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
03 HB 216 Sectional Summary.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
04 HB 216 fiscal Note OOG.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
05 HB 216 ANLC Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
06 HB 216 ANLPAC Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
07 HB 216 Letter of Support Alvanna-Stimple.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
08 HB 216 Letter of Support Charles.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
09 HB 216 Letter of Support Counceller.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
10 HB 216 Supporting Document Twitchel Empire Op-Ed.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
11 HB 216 Letter of Support Molson.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
12 HB 216 AFN Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
13 HB216 email Kaplan - Explanation Symbolic.PDF HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
14 Memo Legal Services on Languages HB216 v.U.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
15 HB 216 Letter of Support SHI.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
16 HB 216 Testimony James.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
SUPPORT EMAILS - HB293.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 293
17 HB216 Testimony Reitmeier ANCSA Regional Assoc..pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
18 Letter in support - Worl of HB216 by UAA Native Student Council.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
19 Letter in support HB216 - FAI.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216
SUPPORT EMAILS HB216.pdf HSTA 3/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 216